Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Lessons I've Learned


Still scraping the tar and feathers off my body after my The Good, Bad and Ugly of the CNP Fire Department post. Although there were far more laurels than bricks for what I did, it still stings. :-(

When I was in sixth grade my best friend and I got caught in class doing some juvenile prank or other that I can't remember right now for which I was singled out and asked by my teacher to squeal on my friend, which I refused to do. The teacher told me to wait out in the hallway, which I did. When I was called back in the teacher again asked me in front of the class to again tell on my friend, who now with others in the class was smiling and laughing in a grand conspiracy of sorts with the teacher, shaking their heads up and down that it was okay to tell. When I still refused, they shook them side to side in dismay. That was my first taste of being humiliated before my peers for standing up for what I thought was right. What I learned that day was what sheep men are to blindly follow authority for authority's sake, forsaking principles, loyalty and honour in order to obediently appease ‘the man’... and be good little boys and girls.

I'm not in sixth grade anymore, but I still won't rat on a friend. So don't expect me to tell you my reader who it was that told me those things in the above linked post. That's where I stand on this matter. End of story.

Where I don't stand, on the other hand, is behind a group whether they be Firefighters, Masons or Ratepayers, for example, who expect as a god given right that I should blindly and without question stand up for them out of some sense of misguided loyalty, when they have never stood up for me... and probably never will?

I told the firefighters two weeks ago, when meeting with all of them along with the executive of the Ratepayers at the Bellevue Fire Hall, not to turn in their pagers without getting a legal opinion first. That it could backfire on them; to wait it out, until after the petition, or if need be until after the next election. Keep their jobs and positions. I stood up for them then, as I stood up for them when I was on council, but I don't recall them ever standing up for me? In fact, its been exactly the opposite.

I know quite a few Masons in town, some of whom I consider to be friends, including a former councillor. Individually I have found them to be good people but collectively they are a blind, obedient, self-serving lot who I feel have been largely responsible for holding our community back for decades (as did the firefighters) by ensuring an egotistical, retrograde and incompetent mayor stayed in power. Allowing him to mismanage this place so badly that this present council has basically had to demolish our house including its very foundations, so to speak, in order to rebuild it so that it’s structurally sound (albeit, trying to fix in just three short years twenty-five years of rot while literally destroying our volunteer base at the same time is wrong-headed and just asking for trouble, which is what they now have). On a personal note, I'll never forget, like Willy Sygutek I’m sure never will either, the election of 2001, when these good people threw a celebration victory party for Irwin at their hall in Frank.

Yesterday, at the conclusion of the G&P Meeting of council (at which council once again for the umpteenth time deferred the report on the costs of this year’s Rum Runner Days) an executive member of the Ratepayers took me to task in what can only be described as a verbal assault for having given a forum on my blog for the other-side to be heard, believing as I think she did that I had somehow betrayed them for doing so? Somehow she forgot that the Ratepayers Petition was not solely about the Firefighters. They are simply the final straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak.

It always amazes me how groups you wholeheartedly and unquestioningly have supported countless times will turn on you like a wild beast the moment you dare to have an independent mind; willing to listen to both sides of an issue. Or to challenge them on their belief system and/or modus operandi.

“A wise man makes his own decisions; an ignorant man follows public opinion.” I learned this in sixth grade. ;-)




Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good for you. No reason to ever give names. I have also learned to stand up for what I believe it; don't really care what anyone else thinks about it. Because as you said, no matter what you do, it is never good enough for some people.

Maybe we should all become the Stefford Wives; put something in the water so we can all obey.

Anonymous said...

You are an interesting man, John.

Crowsnest Pass Home said...

John

Several comments:

First of all on ratting somebody out on your blog I agree with your position, I have always protected the right of people to be anonymous on my blog. Why limit somebody's freedom to speak? just because they are not comfortable putting out there name. I always use my name but that's me.

Second EVER BODY has a right to their opinion the fact that I or somebody else agrees or disagrees with it is totally irrelevant.
Somebody wants to stand up for this council I that's up to you, I may not agree but's that their choice.

Third I know exactly where you are coming from John, I know who has supported me and who has not. It's a small town, there are some people who have stood besides me win or lose, those I respect tremendously.

Dean Ward

Anonymous said...

Censorship is the bain of democracy. Good for you in allowing an open forum.

Anonymous said...

Well done and well said, John.

The situation you find yourself in could be a great representation of why this community has struggled. Critical thinking is one of the most important skills anyone can develop. You have it. It's apparent that many here are not so fortunate.

Julie said...

Open dialogue, open communication is so important. I echo what others have already said -- good on ya for posting another side of the story.

It is precisely this lack of openness between council and public that is tearing this community apart. The more ideas and viewpoints the better -- this is how great solutions are reached!

We all don't have to agree wholeheartedly with one another, but it is critical that we communicate with each other.

Thanks for continuing to post on your blog and keeping us (well, me for one person anyways!) informed about what is going on with the council and mayor.

It was awesome to chat with you and your fireball wife at Timmy's yesterday! :)

Anonymous said...

Nice post Julie. There is wisdom on all sides.

Anonymous said...

John, It is your blog and you can put on it whatever you want.But it is not a newpaper that is supposed to be neutral.You have called out many over the years for not taking a stand. It does seem like you are flip flopping a little bit.So now that you are going to post both sides of the issue I expect some very positive press about our current federal government(not going to happen ,right).This example just proves the point.

peter rosner said...

Anon 6:28 i beieve you are missing the point. Yes John appears to be flip flopping on this ratepayers agenda but he didn't write the column (it was a friend). So if you were to write something positive about the Federal government he may post that for you(maybe i think). I hope that clarifies things -

Anonymous said...

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The Doomsayer said...

I address this to John, Dean or anyone else who feels that any kind of idea, comment or anything else presented rationally or otherwise will ever make an impact on this community.

This community has a unique problem not generally faced by other areas. I refer you back to the history of the Pass. From the moment the first lots were staked out & the first residents carved out the basic communities, the die was cast. A feud & enmity grew between towns & community members. Even today you can hear comments from old residents "I was born in Hillcrest, have to live in Blairmore & I suppose I'll be buried on that damn hill in Coleman". The consolidation of the towns into the Municipality in the 60's did very little to stem this attitude. Groups & individuals fought & still do to this day, the only time they get together is to turn on a supposed "common enemy". There is absolutely no unified community spirit or cohesion, only the facade.

Today the enemy is the mayor, council members & CAO. With the bright shimmer of indignation glowing over the community, it was easy to present a facade of a common front. How-ever in the glare of reality, the old feuds emerge. Blairmore hates Coleman, Masons hate Lions, residents hate week-enders & so on! Everyone hates each other for presenting an opposing view point & of course, now scrape-goats are made of those who actually stand up to say something.

I have gazed into my crystal ball (Okay, beer glass) & make the following predictions. This fuss about the firemen will, like all other issues in the past (Thunder in the Valley, River Run, Bridgegate, Crowsnest Centre, etc, etc, etc) will fade with nothing accomplished. The mayor, council & administration will continue to "modernize for the future", spending money we don't have, putting the community deeper in debt,(can we say "bankruptcy"?). This debt will be pushed onto the shoulders of residents & businesses, causing even more to leave.
I foresee that within 15 - 17 years, the Pass will be a ghostly image as people drive through saying "you know, there used to be community here, wonder what happened?".

Maybe, just maybe, if we put the past with all of it's feuds, bickering & assorted garbage behind us, we could actually make something of this place.

Why do I write this as the "Doomsayer"? Because I & many others, whether they will admit it publically or nor, can see the hand writing on the wall, foreseeing the doom & end of another community. R.I.P

peter rosner said...

Holy Crap Doomsdayer glad i am going to work this morning so i dont have to go out into this community. There is alot of truth in what you are saying but you obviously have never seen the other side of folks here. When there is a crisis they pull together they always do. Yes they are still very territorial because they care about each of their seperate towns, its hard to keep up with one town let alone the whole community. I personally think its great on a rare day off to get things done and you cant walk two blocks without getting engaged in some form of conversation. The person could be from any one of the towns but at least they acknowledge you, try that in the city. In a ideal world we would find something positive to pull together, maybe we feel we have it pretty good until things are forced on us.

Anonymous said...

Doomsayer, I totally disagree.Sure there are always a few people that have a problem with a differant town than the one they live in, but the majority of people out there could care less. The fireman are an example of a UNITED town as all towns are supporting each other.And while differant groups will not always agree I think you have gone way to far to think there is this big hate idea.You are right about the idea that these problems we have today will pass and that council is overspending. But you are quite wrong about the long term future of the CNP.We are so passionate in the CNP that if things start to get out of control that a UNITED group like the Ratepayers stand up and fight for what they beleive in.Someday the CNP will look similar to Fernie or Canmore.That may be well into the future but the CNP will never die.

Anonymous said...

I really agree with the comments about people hating each other and everything in the Pass. I am shocked at the attitudes here. Even towns against towns. That really needs to stop. We are all equal.

Jose said...

Doomsayer, well thoughtout and said. The glue that keeps the Community together is volunteerism. I am amazed at the the dedication of the various volunteer projects that occur in the Pass. Yes, there is that animosity between the original towns, but as the/we Oldies die off, it will disappear. The problem is, are there enough younger people to fill the volunteer gap that is occuring?

If this latest fiasco affects these volunteer programs, your 15 - 17 years becomes 5 - 7 'years at best. Without volunteerism the Community as we know it is done.

It appears that the present local Government would like to replace these "free" volunteer programs with a bureaucracy that THEY can control. This means an even larger budget, one that we simply cannot afford. Those in charge, Administration included, like this turmoil, since it gives them a reason to keep expanding.

Do they mean well? Who really knows anymore. Im sure that in the beginning they did, but as the water keeps rising and lapping at their butts, they likely forget what the original objectives were. it is more of a CYA and/or "I'll get even" operation now. So many mis-steps have been made that we really don't have to hire a Circus for RRD. We ARE the circus.

The present establishment has taken the wrong fork in the road. We voted them in, we can vote them out. Or, at least harness them, if the Petiton is successful. Either way, the carnage created will be difficult to correct or unravel.

Jose

Anonymous said...

Doomsday, you are wrong. Have you been here during the Lost Creek fire? I agree with Jose, this community is built on volunteerism. I also think this council started with good intentions, but within the first 12 months, little by little the got of the track. The Mayor may have been a fine bureaucrat at one time, now he is hopelessly lost. While our last Mayor could have been criticized by different people for different things- Dr. Irwin at least knew that you will never get out of the hole you dug for your self if you keep on digging. Our new Mayor just keeps on digging. After watching him and seeing how he operates, I am no longer surprised that he keeps on digging. What I am surprised with, however, is that all the otter councilor just sit there and watch the Mayor dig. They have the power to take his shovel away, yet they just sit there. Too bad, and this is why the petition is under way and why most people approached don't have a problem signing. The damage done to the fire department will take at least a generation to repair, otherwise other structures can be undone without too much problem. This community will be fine. It is volunteers and not policies and rules that make our community fine. No need for Doomsdayers, although all communitiies have these unhappy folks.

Crowsnest Pass Home said...

This community needs to change but it can not and will not happen based on squeezing every last penny you can out of a group of home owners, that is comprised of 50% of it's population on a fixed income.
This council or any future one must understand this community simply does not have the resources to run without the help of volunteers.
Mr Doomsday this town will survive and it will prosper. Every town has it's divisions but this is a good town, with for the most part good people. The beauty of this place is second to none. Personally I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Dean Ward

Anonymous said...

Jose 9:36 AM said:

Do they mean well? Who really knows anymore. Im sure that in the beginning they did, but as the water

with alligators

keeps rising and lapping at their butts, they likely forget what the original objectives were.

I think they have no political sense of how to do things in a democracy:

Explain your ideas. Hold a meeting to get public input. If there is controversy, come up with a couple of alternate plans and hold another meeting. Ultimately, Council will have to decide to go ahead with some plan or scrap the idea. But people will accept that there has been an open decision making process.

These guys seem to think they are like generals in the military or executives in a corporation who can make decisions in secret meetings and impose them on footsoldiers and paid flunkies.

Also they seem to have no clue about the basic machinery of government, like they can't spend our money (or do pretty much anything) without a vote of Council.

The Doomsayer said...

It is interesting to read the rebuttals to my comments & having also gotten an earful from some of my friends, I put forth the following thoughts.
Dean Ward makes a point about the aging population. When we look at statistics, the Pass population went from 6262 people in 2001 to 5565 people in 2011, a drop of 11.2%. If we extrapolate this for 20 years (my prediction of 17 - 20 years), based on a continued drop of 11.25 (Yes, it is a very rough estimate) population will be approx. 4400 people. Now if we look at Stats Can; http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/as-sa/fogs-spg/Facts-csd-eng.cfm?Lang=Eng&TAB=2&GK=CSD&GC=4815007 it shows that there are 2115 people between the ages of 45 - 65 as of 2011. In 20 years that means at least 1/2 of the projected population of 4400 will be seniors & beyond with a fixed income. Allowing for children, that leaves possibly 1000 people to pay the taxes to run this community. Unless a concerted effort is made to reverse the present trend, my prediction of over-powering debt will come true.

I reiterate; Maybe, just maybe, if we put the past with all of it's feuds, bickering & assorted garbage behind us, we could actually make something of this place.

Yes, I was here during the Lost Creek fire & yes, the community working & pulling together was indeed a heart warming sight but there again is the question; why didn't this community feeling last? The moment the emergency was over, the day to day routine resumed & any future outlook was lost. A community cohesiveness can only bring about change if the group,not just individuals are willing to see it through.

This truly a wonderful area to live in, second to none in the world but unless the few lone voices fighting for their community, screaming into the west wind can persuade the rest of the population to join in a united front for more than a few weeks, this community will join the ranks of ghost towns of Alberta

John Prince said...

Well Doomssayer, you certainly have the tongues wagging and the brains ticking.  As Jose said, you are a thoughtful person who has obviously given much thought and life experience to what he says. Albeit on the morbid side yet with a ray of hope that if we just get our act together we can still pull through. Despite your moniker, you still hold out hope for us, as do I.

The population stats you threw out beginning with 2001 made me think of an election speech I gave when running for Mayor back in 2001, after having served a term on council as a councillor, that I think is relevant here to both your comment and to my continued faith in this community and its people. If only residents here could break free from their ‘mine boss’ mentality, special interest groups, the propaganda machine, and give true democracy a chance. Then we will have finally come together. The world will be our oyster, and we will be its pearl.

Election Speech (Forum 2001 - Elks Hall)"

Julie,
Your 'fireball' comment about Diane made me laugh. Good one! Fits her to a tee. :-) lol!

JP

Anonymous said...

John, very interesting to see your election speech....here we are, over a decade later and it still rings true. Even the property tax issues! Seems like the same old problems repeat themselves over and over and over again here in the Pass....isn't that akin to the definition of insanity?

The truth is, as much as people don't want this to be the next Canmore, that might be its only chance for survival. Those that oppose that direction seem rather selfish as there is a good chance this community will die with them (excellent stats, doomsdayer).

The good thing is that with a little research, we could learn from all of Canmore's mistakes along the way and build something even better, just have to get everyone on board. However, that is truly the most difficult task and no one has been up to it yet.

Anonymous said...

Doomsdayer, while this council may have started with good intentions, by not engaging the community in a meaningful way, they have lost all. credibility. Jose is quite right. The Mayor has been confused about the meaning of the concept of "executive prerogative," as far as his position is concerned, from day one. On an even sadder note, the rest of the council bought into this confusion. This is why we are, where we are.

John Prince said...

Anon @10:40
"... just have to get everyone on board. However, that is truly the most difficult task and no one has been up to it yet."

For years now, I have said what we need is a 'catalyst' to bring people together and get community development going here. Someone who can bridge the gap between 'old school' and 'new school'.

In my heart of hearts, I believe I am that person. In this regard, as I've stated previously, I will be running, once again, in the next election. Hopefully, the next time I will finally be given a chance to show what I can do. Which I'm sure will be no worse than what we have had with the previous and current mayors, maybe even a tad better. ;-) If I do say so myself. :-)

JP

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